I think Will means apps not using npm.
I admit, I still find it unintuitive to think as you do @bochaco - I hadn’t thought of your solution (using ‘require’ and using npm to run the app like that), so very helpful to see that!
I think Will and I are still in “old school” thinking, but this is not entirely bad because it is easier to understand what is going on. Using npm to do the work can make the steps easier to get through though.
node.js/npm is just a lot to get your head around, so a barrier in other ways, and clearly I still haven’t got there yet. Gabriel, you and @joshuef are showing me the way with it, so again thanks!
Will, I like your questions to Josh as well. Please keep thinking the way you are, trying to make these steps easier for new folk, because it could have a big impact IMO.